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More on PAL Experience

This rude encounter with PAL staffers by Mr. & Mrs. Aniceto is not going away with passing the buck response from the airline company. Rudy has left a message at the other entry tited "Philippine Airlines Abused Elderly Passengers?" to let us know of the developments regarding their ill treatmentfrom the hands of PAL staffers.
Below are the responses from yahoo groups some from expats and Filams sharing their "memorable" experience with the flag carrier. If you are inclined to let them know here is the data where they can be reached:


Customer Relations
1st Floor Philippine Airlines Center
Legazpi Street, Legaspi Village
Makati City 0750
Tel : (632) 816-4302/ 816-1358/817-2844/818-4582(632) 818-0111 loc 5223/5261/5321
Fax : (632) 894-3930
e-mail : wecare@pal.com.ph


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yes my friend , that is very unfortunate and very out of character for pilipinos . philippine airlines is forced to make commercial decisions based on the ticket class . they failed to warn the elderly gentleman of the conditions of passage .


philippine airlines has had a hard time cutting the mustard in a deregulated market.


they are known as p a l = plane always late
they are known as p a l = palpak air lines ( not good )


( this is showing my age ) i can remember the days when they flew from australia in d c 9 aircraft . it was a drunks paradise as every body camped at the rear galley drinking beer, ha ha ha the plane flew at 2 0 degrees off parallel (horizon) they used to fly b a c 111 on the domestic routes , known as the flying tank.


peter


Unfortunately, my one and only trip on PAL was similar to the one by Rodolfo. I had a 3 week vacation and had planned down to the hour. I left Florida on time and after going thru Atlanta arrived in L.A. Trudged up to the PAL counter for check in and was told they had no aircraft for the flight. The plane from Manila had not arrived and no reason was given. I was told the flight would be rescheduled for the following morning at 10 a.m. and to return then. I politely informed the counter person that since the delay was their fault, they owed me a hotel for the night. They became upset as evidently I was the first one to know I had this right. After about 45 minutes they told us we would be taken to a hotel and picked up the following morning. I then asked for meal money and they went into a tizzy. Eventually I was told to get it from the hotel. I was given $15.00 for dinner and $10.00 for breakfast. We were taken to a Holiday Inn Express in Hawthorne, CA. with no restaurant. The only places to eat were a McDonalds and a Jack in the Box, both a long walk. The next morning I was talking to some Filipinos who were on the flight and they were surprised that I had gotten that amount of money. They were given $10.00 for dinner and $5.00 for breakfast. I noticed then that the level of courtesy extended was lower for the Filipinos. The return flight was only an hour late leaving. Since then, I have flown Northwest or Cathay Pacific. I prefer Cathay as it is direct to Cebu from Hong Kong. PALhas consistently resisted any open skies agreement. They realize all too well that their customer service cannot compete with other airlines. Given any other choice, I will never use them again. They seem to think they are doing me a favor by allowing me to fly with them. This attitude is not conducive to repeat customers.


John W Harris


Therein lies the problem. You used a watch and a calendar and planned it "to the hour". Having not learned about "Pinoy time".


Relax, enjoy and remember, whatever or whoever you need to do or get done in the Philippines……... It will take a day.


UNLESS it is complicated. Then it may take a week.


Texkano


Customer service has always sucked on PAL, I do fly them domestically (Manila to Legaspi) just because it is so hard to book a Cebu Pacific flight from within the US. Just an aside, never plan any trip down to the hour, what with delays on the increase, more lost luggage then ever before there are just too many things that can go wrong. Plus in PI you have to deal with Pinoy time.


Rick


Its unfortunate that PAL would torture 2 senior citizens in the manner described in the post. I have flown roundtrip from San Francisco to Bohol 3 times and I found the PAL service to be very good. The staff was courteous and helpful. There is a 12 hour wait in Manila on my return flight to the states and all 3 times I have been given a very nice suite at a quality hotel, either the Heritage or Century Park Hotel. They give me the choice of the room or meals. I am surprised to hear of their bad service, its the exact opposite of the service I have received.


Best,
Pottbelly


When we allow abuse, we get it. The thing to do is - RAISE HELL!!!


Three incidents for me.


First incident - I just got a ticket booked on Sept. 10, 2001 from LAX to Manila. Then the next day when my agent was to mail the airline ticket, the day was 9/11. Before the ticket got sent, all planes were grounded for 3 days. My flight was Sept. 21.


Anyway, I went ahead flew to LAX to catch the PAL flight that was to leave at 10 p.m., Sept. 21. However, we were told that additional flights were scheduled to accomodate those who were pushed back since 9/11. We were to wait for a PAL plane from Honolulu that will follow the 10 p.m. (my) flight at 11 p.m. The plane didn't arrive. So, we waited at the McDonald's on the mezzanine. No news. It was 12.30 a.m. just spent a MD voucher for a late dinner.


I went down to the PAL counter - asking for the plane schedule. I was told our flight will be tomorrow (next day) at 10 a.m. I fumed. No offer of hotel for the rest of the night. The counter people were busy after I was told of the flight next day. I started off - like, "you mean we will sit here all night waiting for 10 a.m. flight tomorrow? blah, blah, do you realize I came halfway across America (from Arkansas) to get here to catch the 10 p.m. flight? blah-blah, blah with my hands on my hips wanting to wage an assault! The counter clerk disappeared quickly and came back. "Mrs. if you go out of the building, you will find a shuttle bus that will take you to the hotel for PAL passengers!! You need to hurry or you will not get one!"


So, I picked up my bag and ran out. I caught the shuttle bus starting to leave full of passengers. I got to the hotel. Had no change clothes so I called my daughter to bring me some change clothing. She can't because the airport is cordoned off one mile around. I took off my underclothing, washed and turned the hair dryer on all night. I slept naked under the bedsheets!!! Too bad, Tim was not with me! Hahahahaha!


Second incident - my sister was in Manila for a 2:30 p.m. PAL flight to Iloilo. She is an insulin-dependent diabetic and her schedule was already messing up her level of BS. The plane was rescheduled for 4:30 p.m. Then the announcement came - the plane will leave at 5:30 p.m. That did it. She was going hypo. She ate to ward it off. Went up to the counter and demanded to be flown out right away, any plane that leaves sooner for Iloilo. She raised her own hell. She came from London. She is a very exacting person, very British for promptness but very hostile Filipino for mess-ups! She went on and on telling them about her delayed flight and people waiting in Iloilo since 2 p.m. OK. They appeased her.


An announcement came that they board this plane. So, they all did. Inside the plane, there was no activity. They expected to leave - another hour, they were still at the tarmacs. So, she went after the first attendant alive on her warpath. Started off her rantings. Told them she was starving and they better leave now! There was no pilot, so she threatened to get off! Cellphones started working, flight crew calling all over. A pilot appeared at the door! She was still standing at the door ready to get down. The flight attendant sat her in the front row, offered to serve her something to eat. She complied and was still fuming with her British "bloody hells". She ate what they gave her. Few minutes, the engine started, and she returned to her seat. The passengers clapped and booed the crew. Everybody started talking while the plane taxied off the runway. The passengers thanked her for the guts!


Third incident - same flight for me, my husband and my g-daughter. Flight was delayed two hours. We waited. Then an announcement that the flight delay is another hour. When the next hour came, the flight attendants arrived at the counter. So, we all queued to board. No sign of boarding, so we all sat down again. The flight attendants sat there, sat there, and then started to tell stories, giggled and laughed and just as though nothing is going to take place next (board!!). I started getting the creeps - hungry, dizzy, and the worst can happen next. I stood up, went to the counter, and looked at the attendants still giggling, laughing and started off - HEY! ARE WE LEAVING OR NOT OR WHEN? DO YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 12 NOON AND WE HAVEN'T LEFT YET? IT IS ABOUT 5PM!! DO YOU EVEN HAVE A PLANE? I DON'T SEE ONE! DO YOU REALIZE THE PASSENGERS ARE HUNGRY? ME? DO YOU HAVE AN AMBULANCE TO TAKE ME OUT TO THE HOSPITAL IF I COLLAPSE HERE? DO YOU KNOW WE HAVE NOT EATEN YET? BLAH,BLAH, BLAH AND ALL OF YOU GIGGLING AS THOUGH WE ARE NOT PAYING TO GET ON THE FLIGHT THAT YOU HAVE POSTPONED SINCE 2:30 P.M.?


They were quiet, stopped the motions and started to pick up the phone, cellphones, calling. My husband pulled me over and offered to buy me something to eat. I refused. I told him, I want to go to the hospital right now!!!


Then the announcement - for passengers to get something to eat at this kiosk inside the lounge. So everybody went for that. But I had mine already bought. I sat down needing anger management right then. Burly personnel came to the counter and talked to the crew. Soon an announcement - to board in the next few minutes. We lined up again and SURE! WE BOARDED! The plane took off right away!


REGARDLESS WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR RIGHTS, GO FOR IT! Give them your hell! Don't let them abuse you - they are offering you service and you are paying for that service. Get it!


Happy flying! God bless.

Elsa







Social Graces 101






This falls under the category of "Shit Happens." When going to a restaurant if the service is bad and you don't like the meal you selected, do you make a scene? If you do you are the one that looks like an ass. The proper thing to do is leave a reduced tip, later if asked give the place a bad recommendation then never go there again. If the service and product is as bad to others as your perception with time the establishment will loose customers then go under or they will fix the problem. If they stay in business with no change then perhaps you may have the wrong perception. This applies to all customer service type businesses, 99.9% of the time you have alternatives. It don't get easier than that.




John K





My, my...I am not suprised at all at all these stories of abuse, arrogance and plain ineptness of PAL personnel!





That they keep on repeating this display of indifference bordering on abuse especially of elderly passengers is obscene....





I had my own share of stories to tell of PAL personnel in LAX, after an announcement of a 3 hour delay in our flight, just shrugging their shoulders when queried for the reason for the delay.
Of course, I raised hell and told them off: " Hey, is it very difficult to tell us that the pilots died? or, the plane crashed? or whatever?!"





And, some of them meekly answered: " Ma'am, we really do not know the reason for the 3-hour delay..."





When later, I asked the purser for an explanation for why no one, as in, no one can tell me why our flight was delayed, she said: " Ma'am, sorry ho... Pero, yuon namang mga tao sa LAX ay hindi talaga taga PAL kung hindi mga contractuals lang..." Yikes!





Attention: My good friend and colleague Cesar...sa dinami dami ng mga reklamo na ito, gawa ka na nga ng website para naman mabasa ng mga taga PAL at magbago na sila ng estilo ng kanilang pamamalakad....ano ba yan!!!



Clarita
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Draco said...

I don't understand this complaint. As with other airlines everyone has the same policies with winning tickets. These are non-revenue tickets. I know 'coz I won before. These people should have read the fine print. Also, if they have medical conditions, they shouldn't have travelled in the first place. I can't imagine travelling with a wheelchair, much more with a catheter in tow. They said it themselves, it is a non revenue ticket and can be bumped off anytime. If they were that eager to go home, why not fly with another airline? May I ask what airline returned them home to Guam, I bet it was PAL, still. It's very ironic Filipinos complain a lot when it's a Filipino company and remain mum when it's an international company, giving so much rhetoric on being ashamed of being Filipino, even boasting being a green card holder or a relative of this or that, when it's not even the issue in the first place. They should have done their homework before they flew. If they loved the Philippines, they should have stayed in their native country and not be another social burden to the United States.

Anonymous said...

Gordon “Gordy” Elletson claims to be from Texas and posts on the internet under nic TEXKANO. Anyway this loser lives in CDO Philippines and hit a young child , one Xavier Madlangbayan from Iligan City, with a walking cane and then typed a full confession on his forum boasting of his accomplishment. The boys grandfather ,Dr. Severino Madlangbayan, is filing charges against the fake Texan coward and hopefully the loser will face justice this Nov. 20th. also check out link below for even more info on this disgusting American.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/0 ...

PASTED CONFESSION BELOW:

In Right_Minded-Winged_Warriors@y ahoogroups.com , TexKano
TexKano@(Gordon Elletson) wrote:

Okay, here’s the story of my shitty day on Monday.
2 weeks ago I got this letter of THREAT from OPM but sent thru
SSA at he Embassy Now, all of those fuckers got my correct address. I got my OPM
Handbook at the correct address and it is typed inside the pamplet.
the threat? They said I WILL show up at this outreach meeting or
My retirement (all of 569 per month for 26+ years of service) will be
cut off. So, against my will, I’m at a place I don’t wanna be (Pryce Hotel on
The Hill).
over there is this fat lil slug of a boy with his Lolo and Lola. he’s 12 or so.
Making noise slapping his hands on the side of the chair “LOO LO LO LO LA LA LA ” nonsesical noise out his fat lil mouth. had taken and extra valium, so not to bad yet. Gettting on my
nerves, but dealing. Then this lil fuck puts his feet, slippers and all on the dinning table.
I get up and walk over and tap him on the leg with my cane and tell
Him get his smelly feet and slippers off the table and practice acting like a
human being. Now, if I was in one of my rage moods, Lolo would have died when
He bumped into me, challenge why I “HIT” his grandson. Basically, because you, as his Lolo, ain’t doing your job and teach The lil dumb shit manners.
PNP was called, they waited (much to the Dr. Lolo’s dismay) until I was done with the Embassy thing. Him and his wife were irrate and degrading the PNP with their screaming and all around chimpanzee act..
Besides, I called a friend, a Major in the PNP and he arrived and spoke with the PNP. They had no problem with me, but were getting an
Attitude towards this old fart. o I got a free ride in the PNP vehicle (my choice), one of them
Rode with the wife,(again my choice). Old fart has to take grandson to hospital to have him looked at.
He shows up late and tries to bribe one of the officers (Lim) to take his side “I will take care of you” wink wink.
Nope, they all fed up with this guy.
The PNP gives me a good lawyer’s name.
I’m going to court when I get my summons.
Charge, Child Abuse.
I told the PNP, Yep, I did it, but I was wrong and sorry. I should
Have backhanded the old man out of his chair for not teaching his
Grandson manners.
They was all laughing when I left.
Good thing I forgot the guys name and address (saw it while they
Were typing the report) He would be unable to be at the court house.
No brag, just plain fact.
Child abuse?
I gave the PNP my web site address. They was having fun looking at
All my happy kids.
gordy

Anonymous said...

Gordon “Gordy” Elletson claims to be from Texas and posts on the internet under nic TEXKANO. Anyway this loser lives in CDO Philippines and hit a young child , one Xavier Madlangbayan from Iligan City, with a walking cane and then typed a full confession on his forum boasting of his accomplishment. The boys grandfather ,Dr. Severino Madlangbayan, is filing charges against the fake Texan coward and hopefully the loser will face justice this Nov. 20th. also check out link below for even more info on this disgusting American.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/0 ...

PASTED CONFESSION BELOW:

In Right_Minded-Winged_Warriors@y ahoogroups.com , TexKano
TexKano@(Gordon Elletson) wrote:

Okay, here’s the story of my shitty day on Monday.
2 weeks ago I got this letter of THREAT from OPM but sent thru
SSA at he Embassy Now, all of those fuckers got my correct address. I got my OPM
Handbook at the correct address and it is typed inside the pamplet.
the threat? They said I WILL show up at this outreach meeting or
My retirement (all of 569 per month for 26+ years of service) will be
cut off. So, against my will, I’m at a place I don’t wanna be (Pryce Hotel on
The Hill).
over there is this fat lil slug of a boy with his Lolo and Lola. he’s 12 or so.
Making noise slapping his hands on the side of the chair “LOO LO LO LO LA LA LA ” nonsesical noise out his fat lil mouth. had taken and extra valium, so not to bad yet. Gettting on my
nerves, but dealing. Then this lil fuck puts his feet, slippers and all on the dinning table.
I get up and walk over and tap him on the leg with my cane and tell
Him get his smelly feet and slippers off the table and practice acting like a
human being. Now, if I was in one of my rage moods, Lolo would have died when
He bumped into me, challenge why I “HIT” his grandson. Basically, because you, as his Lolo, ain’t doing your job and teach The lil dumb shit manners.
PNP was called, they waited (much to the Dr. Lolo’s dismay) until I was done with the Embassy thing. Him and his wife were irrate and degrading the PNP with their screaming and all around chimpanzee act..
Besides, I called a friend, a Major in the PNP and he arrived and spoke with the PNP. They had no problem with me, but were getting an
Attitude towards this old fart. o I got a free ride in the PNP vehicle (my choice), one of them
Rode with the wife,(again my choice). Old fart has to take grandson to hospital to have him looked at.
He shows up late and tries to bribe one of the officers (Lim) to take his side “I will take care of you” wink wink.
Nope, they all fed up with this guy.
The PNP gives me a good lawyer’s name.
I’m going to court when I get my summons.
Charge, Child Abuse.
I told the PNP, Yep, I did it, but I was wrong and sorry. I should
Have backhanded the old man out of his chair for not teaching his
Grandson manners.
They was all laughing when I left.
Good thing I forgot the guys name and address (saw it while they
Were typing the report) He would be unable to be at the court house.
No brag, just plain fact.
Child abuse?
I gave the PNP my web site address. They was having fun looking at
All my happy kids.
gordy

Unknown said...

@Anonymous, the "confession" if accurate does not seem to incriminate Gordy and it looks more like a pure harassment case. It only shows the 12 year old has no manners raising his feet on the dining table and the relatives getting even for getting censored in public by a foreigner.

Brad Hughes said...

"Good thing I forgot the guys name and address (saw it while they
Were typing the report) He would be unable to be at the court house.
No brag, just plain fact." quote by Gordy Elletson. Sounds like a threat maybe worse than bad manners. For all the story, go here: http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/07/tr.html

Unknown said...

Oh ok, I missed that last portion... yeah that is a threat and if he is serious about it he is in deep waters.

Anonymous said...

You guys must view site below and report this perverted American, Goron Elletson , to the BI in CDO as this predator is living within that city and preying on the Filipino youth who reside there. Just look at those pictures of little girls in bras and panties. What kind of pervert could , or would even want, take such pictures? Gordy Elletson that’s who as when he is not busy abusing children , like Xavier Madlangbayan, and bragging about his actions using his TexKano internet handle he obviously entertains his sick mind in producing and publishing child pornography while exploiting Filipino youth.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/07/tr.html

Anonymous said...

Gordon Elletson claims to have PTSD do to combat experiences but how can that be as he never saw any serrious combat like that which Bradley Hughes fought gallantly in. Now for the truth. Gordon Elletson was molested as a child and has admitted this on public forum. This in all probability is the cause of his PTSD as well as his abuse of drugs, alcohol, women and children. Many studies have shown that victims of child abusers grow often into predators who abuse children. It is like a dog, if you beat dog etc he will become aggressive. Could this sexual abuse in Gordon’s past be the cause of why he grew into a abuser? Also after being used sexually by a man he may have doubted his manhood. This may be the cause of Gordy Elletson going around trying to feel like a real man by hitting women and small children.

The bad thing is unlike the dog in paragraph above Gordon ” TexKano ” Elletson rationalizes his behavior by using his various mental illnesses as a defense so he doesn’t have to face fault of his actions. In many ways though the dog has more sense than Gordon Elletson as the dog knows not to shit where it sleeps , sadly Gordy Elletson does not. To see evidence of this one needs to only read his own biography and how he abused his ex-wives by hitting them then moved to the Philippines where he brutally abused Xavier Madlangbayan by hitting him with a cane in the middle of a US embassy outreach function held at Pryce Plaza hotel in CDO , Cagayan de Oro, Philippines.

Gordon is mentally ill though and must stay highly medicated in order to function in society, he has admitted this on a site. But even more evidence is how he called his American wives bitches and stuff because they left his abusive ass. Is he so stupid to not see they did not like to be abused nor should any person be subjected to abuse. He then in Philippines carried on this bullshit attitude and after beating Xavier Madlangbayan went home and bragged about it openly on the Internet. He then called Dr. Severino Madlangbayan , a highly respected member of the Iligan community, a banana eating monkey for getting angry about having his small grandson beaten in a public environment.

Gordon though in his mentally deranged state justifies these inexcusable actions just as he justified putting Bradley Hughes , Jerry Olson and others on his nonsensical wall of same.

It is my belief that Gordon Elletson poses a threat to the community and should either leave on his own or face deportation. In fact his mental illness alone is enough to block his immigration into Philippines as one of stipulations of the RA13 is that person must not suffer from serious mental illness, especially those which cause them to be violent in public.

The real victim in this crime is Xavier Madlangbayan as he suffered emotional trauma due to abuse at the hands of Gordon Elletson. In fact Xaviers mother, Margie Madlangbayan, stated on public forum that Xavier stated several times on the way to court “”mommy,is Gordon going to be there?what if he hits me again? To which she replied “Xavier,he will pay for what he did.He will never put his hands on you again,over my dead body.” I find her comment very great as it would be the comment of any parent in the situation as parental instincts cross all cultural lines and all of us who are parents would also fight to the end of the world in protection of our children.

They say it takes a village to raise a child so let us join together and make our voices heard so we can bring this fatass Gordon Elletson to justice and insure that no other Filipino children face abuse at the hands of this violent foreign monster who not only abuses children but is also arrogant (or crazy) enough to brag online about his disgusting actions.

For more info on Gordon Elletson please see link below.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

This email is interesting as it contains a header and in it Gordon " TexKano " Elletson , the child abuser of CDO Philippines, outrightly admits to bathing with small children in the Philippines.

Pasted:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: TexKano
Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: My shit’s fucked up
To: Mike Roy

Been there, done that.
That shift changing is fuckin’ up your sleep habits.
Fucked up sleep habits lead to depression.

Depression, (if you had it before the sleep pattern was messed up) is nothing to screw with.
Damn near killed me.

Take walks
Eat and drink right.
Try some chocolate once a week or so (sometimes that helps)

We know you’re there. Stay in the back if you prefer. It’s okay.

Yep, a group that on normal situations, would never happen. hahahahahaha

You take care. Write me now and then if nothing else.
I’m always here.

oooops, lil girl just said “Tito Gordy, lets take a bath”
she been doing that everyday all month
hahahahahaha

she washes my legs and my back
I get to wash her hair.

gordy dos 17dec07
My Web-page
http://gahig-ulo.com/ – NEW PAGES 15Apr09

Anonymous said...

I now have something sinister to present which involves a British pimp named Michael Mountstephen who openly admits that he has political protection from various politicians in CDO Philippines.

This is an election period and while I am not affiliated with any candidate my hope is to enlighten the voting populace as to these disgusting issues taking place in Cagayan de Oro City. I find it disturbing that these sickening things occur in CDO and hope truly that the politicians of that locality will address these issues as they without doubt are important to the constituents of this city.

Please see link below for a pimps confession regarding buying protection from politicians in Cagayan de Oro Philippines so that he may engage in human trafficking and white slavery with absolute impunity to Philippine law.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

Hello Forum Readers,

I am writing here to expose an abusive expat who not only earns a living by exploiting Filipinas but also brings great shame to the Philippines by illegally using the official seals of government agencies.

The expat in question is a British national, named Michael Mountstephen, who owns Spooks bar and whorehouse in Cagayan de Oro Philippines.

Michael Mountstephen claims to be accredited by DOT10 but he is not accredited as DOT doesn't endorse brothels. Please see below link for evidence including a statement from DOT10 Director Chan.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/12/sexpats-whorehousesphilanthropists.html

Anonymous said...

Now Mrs. Daisy Cline of Cagayan de Oro Philippines has stated on another forum that she holds charity events in brothels because that's where her husband, Alan Cline, can be found. I want to address her statements.

Daisy Cline in the photos your husband, Alan Cline, looks very old so I can only guess that you are not his first wife. I also do not know what he has told you about American life but rest assured most men in America , except the type you see on Jerry Springer show, do not bring their wives to brothels like the one seen in link below.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/2009/12/sexpats-whorehousesphilanthropists.html

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did decide to hold charity functions in a brothel because it is the only place you could do it and have your husband included. However, I must ask if you do not condone pimping then why is your name connected all over the Internet to pimps, criminals and brothels?

I mean you are a moderator of site in link below

http://www.livingincebuforums.com/ipb/

Which is linked to sites below

http://philippinenightlifeforum.com/
http://philippinebarreviews.com/mindanao.htm
http://www.spookscdo.com/index.html

And owned by the person in links below

http://vap-ripoff.org/Paul-Petrea-in-jail.html
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/01/20/news/overstaying.american.falls.html
http://www.cebucity.gov.ph/forum/index.php?topic=146.0

Mrs Daisy Cline, Do you expect as to believe these are mere coincidences? Did your father take your mother to brothels? Did your lolo take your lola? I ask as I am interested in why a lady of God and Charity is so connected to seedy persons. Do you not see the harm in supporting the very pimps who are profiting through exploiting the people you state you wish to help? Or are you there trying to bring the prostitutes to Christ?

Anonymous said...

Pure crap written here, there, everywhere by Evan Iliadis (Anonymous), Justin Arledge and Bradley Hughes. They set themselves up as judge, jury and executioner. They are nothing but a cheap rip off of an extortionist. How wonderful it is to have a computer and internet connection, then procede to destroy peoples lives through lies and misdirection. One must question everything. What is their motive? Why are they doing this? Anonymous (Evan Iliadis) lives in France - hence - never met Gordon Elletson. Justin Arledge lives in Mesa Arizona - never met Gordon Elletson. Bradley Hughes exists, not lives, in Cagayan de Oro. Maybe he has met Gordon Elletson. Does Bradley really need these other 2 trolls assistance to take out the garbage? Do they hold hands?

Justin Arledge is a bi-polar alcoholic. That explains a lot. He was run out of the Philippines for the murder of the son of a businessman (hardware) in Butuan. He repeatedly visited the local house of child prostitution to, as he claims, find his shabu addicted cousin of his wife. WHAT?? Children as prostitutes? What did Justin Arledge do about that? Did he write volumes on the interent? Did he take it to the mayor? PNP? Child Services? NO? Why not? Are you sure you had a shabu addicted cousin? The murder was in retaliation of his truck being blown up by a RPG. One must question why that was done. Were you involved in gang wars in Butuan? None of this makes you a reliable source of anything.
Evan Iliadis is Greek, whom adopted France as his country after serving (his words) in the French Foreign Legion. Aren't they formed of criminals and escapees from other countries? He moved to France after living in the Philippines and leaving two steps ahead of flying lead after attacking the local Rotary on fraud.
Bradley Hughes, a Vietnam Vet suffering from PTSD and Schizophrenia, both left untreated. Bradley was tossed out of the CDO Rotary. Bradley's friends consist of . . . . he has none in the community where he resides. He's the only person kicked out of a dancing girly bar because the girls wanted nothing to do with him - hence his attacks on Spooks. He has been banned from a local bakery for molesting the cash register girl (under 18). He routinely (as overheard over the back fence telegraph lines amongst maids) molests his maid when his wife is not around. That might explain why her wages are double the going rate for a maid. Bradley Hughes also, repeatedly, tries to get others to wife swap with him (mostly pinoy couples).
Now these three misfits band together to attack and defame Gordon Elletson. Why? I heard it's because he kicked them off his free, yahoo group.

Let the courts decide. Shut your mouths. You are really quite tiresome and boring. You continue to pepper the entire internet with your boring diatribe and mouth spewed garbage. Back in the good days of State run Homes for the mentally deficit, you three would reign.
I am just tired of seeing this and you three all over the internet. Get off so some genuine human beings can converse like adults.

I will continue to shut these three fools down. They claim Gordon Elletson is mentally unfit. What does this obsession of theirs say about them?

Are you tired of their crap too? Let them know. Tell them to get a life and move out.
Bradley Hughes hughes3864 at yahoo.com
Justin Arledge justinarledge at yahoo.com
Evan Iliadis

Anonymous said...

This email is interesting as it contains a header and in it Gordon " TexKano " Elletson , the child abuser of CDO Philippines, outrightly admits to bathing with small children in the Philippines.

Pasted:

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: TexKano
Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: My shit’s fucked up
To: Mike Roy

Been there, done that.
That shift changing is fuckin’ up your sleep habits.
Fucked up sleep habits lead to depression.

Depression, (if you had it before the sleep pattern was messed up) is nothing to screw with.
Damn near killed me.

Take walks
Eat and drink right.
Try some chocolate once a week or so (sometimes that helps)

We know you’re there. Stay in the back if you prefer. It’s okay.

Yep, a group that on normal situations, would never happen. hahahahahaha

You take care. Write me now and then if nothing else.
I’m always here.

oooops, lil girl just said “Tito Gordy, lets take a bath”
she been doing that everyday all month
hahahahahaha

she washes my legs and my back
I get to wash her hair.

gordy dos 17dec07
My Web-page
http://gahig-ulo.com/ – NEW PAGES 15Apr0

...................................

If you guys want to email the pervert you can reach him at TEXKANO@GMAIL.COM

Anonymous said...

The nitwit above talking about murder is one dumb mother fucker. For starters if you murdered the son of a prominant business man in pi you would be held bail without bail until outcome of trail. After trail you would sit in a Philippine prison for many many years , decades most likely, and then be deported back to your home country after serving Philippine prison time. It quite obviouse that the fat fucker who wrote the above doesnt know shit about anything.

In all honesty it takes no genius to know that Gordon Elletson the pervert child abuser/molestor in cdo , cagayan de oro, Philippines wriote that dumb shit in order to attempt to get some sympathy for himself as he is facing a court case for child abuse for the beating of a iligan youth.

Not only did the pooreigner beat the kid but then in his stupid fucking mind he went home and bragged openly about abusing the kid , Xavier Madlangbayan , all over the fucking internet. The boys mother Margie Madlangbayan and him lolo , one Dr. Severigno Madlangbayan, are going to see his fat ass deported.

Then if yje above isnt bad enough the fat fuck then emailed one mike jansen at onquestmarketing@yahoo.com and bragged about taking daiuly baths with a little girl at his house.

Gordon Elletson is a truly sick fuck and posts on internet under the nic TEXKANO . He enjoys slandering people without proof of his fucking allegations as he hopes it will take the focus off of himself and the fact he is a admitted child abuser.

Anonymous said...

Now lets discuss Gordon Elletson the child abusing child molester . Yes Gordon is both as he had admitted to both on public forums.

This guy is 60+ yrs old and fat as a fucking blimp. No shit he must weigh 375 pounds and looks like a god damnned blimp.

The fuck lives in a shack surrounded by a squatter area as he even at his age can not even afford to buy his own fucking shack in a developing nation. This is why he rents a shack from congressman rufus rodriguez and thinks the congressman will help him in regards to his child abuse case for beating xavier madlangbayan at pryce plaza hotel during a us embassey outreach program.

Anyway we have seen confession regarding his child abuse and child molestations but truth be told gordon also is mentally unstable as diagnosed by the us government. he claims to have been a green beret but those in the know state the fat bastard spent most his military career on a medical base in germany and never once did the fucking bastard wear a green beret that he earned.

He is married to a hiddious looking woman named jackey and even she only married his fat ass for the money. She before marrying the fat fucking sexpat lived in a tiny shack that even a rat would be seen in.

Also his wife often goes to her home town alone and rumor has it she is getting fucked by her pinoy boyfriend as gordon elletson is even less than a minute man. thats right guys gordon is impotent and cant get it up so his wife must be serviced elsewhere by pinoys.

Anonymous said...

Also what is very funny is fact gordon claims to be in sobriety but the dumb bastard smokes weed like a hippy in a vw bus.

His wife jackey drinks like a fucking drunk as well. Who can blame her though as she must go though life being lauighed at for having had the missfortune to marry a fat, bald and old fucker who is poor and lives in a rented shack.

also being so poor she must overlook her husbands abuses to children and fact is she most likely does it to avoid going back to that rat shack she grew up calling home. we must pity her.

if you want to ask goron elletson about this email him at texkano@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

Pure slander and stupidity. Says much for one Justin Arledge of Mesa Arizona that he cannot even sign his own name to the crap he spews.

I am sure the esteemed Congressman would be interested to know that he owns a squatter shack.

arledge, a self claimed "Southerner" now resorts to trash talking about Gordon's wife and family.

One must consider the source of ALL THIS INTERNET INFORMATION put out by justin arledge and evan iliadis.

#1 they have never met Gordon
#2 they both left the Philippines in the cover of the night, with escorts
#3 they trash talk about wives (whom they claim to be protecting with all this slander). Now why would a person (?), such as evan or justin, cause Petrea, Elletson, Zink, Cline, Farrell and others, mentioned on 10+ blogs by these two idiots, so much nonsensical attacks to protect the Philippines and it's people, then turn around and call a filipina wife a whore and children future whores?

Questions. Always question things like this. I am a firm believer that there is true evil in the world. These people like bradley hughes, justin arledge and evan iliadis are nothing more than a cheap version of an internet terrorist.
The real problem is that they cannot blow themselves up, over the internet. Damn shame.

Question. Always question to motive of people like this.

Tell these terrorists what you think of them, or, tell Gordon Elletson what you think of him.

Anonymous said...

Also, notice how the talk of justin arledge goes immediately to gutter language? Very inarticulate, to say the least. Borders on ignorance and "hip-hop punk".

He couldn't spit out two complete paragraphs without being vulgar.

Shut this mental midget down. Take away his computer. He's much to stupid to own a computer.

The frightening thing is, this social reject has children. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

annie non mouse

Anonymous said...

Gordon Elletson,

Hello you admitted child abuser. If you want to tell the congressman he owns a shack feel free to do so, I do not care. Also you must notice that he rents that shack to you rather than living in it himself. Shows he must not have thought it was very nice huh? Anyway it a win/win situation for him as he can now rent it to a pooreigner like yourself and laugh out loud knowing a 60+ year old man could afford nothing better than a rented home.

Regarding being a southerner, Lets not forget that Gordon Elletson calls himself TEXKANO despite the very real fact that he isnt even a damn Texan. Nope he is a carpet bagging yankee, thats the facts.

Now as for talking about Gordons wife , Jackey, sorry but it does not take a genius to see she lived in a even worse shack before marrying the pooreignor as the pooreigner in past had pictures of the dump on his website and to say it nicely it wasnt even fit for rats. Also, Anyone with sense can know the woman only married Gordon Elletson to escape the impoverished life which is all she had. I say this because what other kind of woman would want Gordon and his fat ass? I mean look at his pics on the sexpat blog. The guy is a real fatass, bald and well frankly jusat ugly as shit. The kind of looks that not even a mother would love.

Oh thats right Gordon Elletsons mother didnt love his ass and left him as a child. Then to whatever reason he proceeded to get fucked up the ass in his youth which is what made him into the child abusing nitwit you see today on the sexpat blog.

Not only is he ugly as shit but is dumb as a rock as well. I mean what kind of fucking idiot goes around abusing children then bragging about it online in the way that Gordon Elletson bragged about abusing Xavier Madlangbayan of iligan city.

Then to make it worse Gordon the dumb fuck didnt even understand why the boys grandfather , Dr. Severino Madlangbayan, was upset with him so he proceeded to call the good doctor a banana eating monkey.

Anonymous said...

PASTED CONFESSION BELOW:

In Right_Minded-Winged_Warriors@yahoogroups.com, TexKano
TexKano@ (Gordon Elletson) wrote:

Okay, here's the story of my shitty day on Monday.

2 weeks ago I got this letter of THREAT from OPM but sent thru
SSA at he Embassy Now, all of those fuckers got my correct address. I got my OPM
Handbook at the correct address and it is typed inside the pamplet. the threat?
They said I WILL show up at this outreach meeting or My retirement (all of 569
per month for 26+ years of service) will be cut off.

So, against my will, I'm at a place I don't wanna be (Pryce Hotel on
The Hill),over there is this fat lil slug of a boy with his Lolo and Lola. he's
12 or so. Making noise slapping his hands on the side of the chair "LOO LO LO LO
LA LA LA " nonsesical noise out his fat lil mouth. had taken and extra valium,
so not to bad yet. Gettting on my
nerves, but dealing. Then this lil fuck puts his feet, slippers and all on the
dinning table.

I get up and walk over and tap him on the leg with my cane and tell
Him get his smelly feet and slippers off the table and practice acting like a
human being.

Now, if I was in one of my rage moods, Lolo would have died when He bumped into
me, challenge why I "HIT" his grandson. Basically, because you, as his Lolo,
ain't doing your job and teach The lil dumb shit manners.

PNP was called, they waited (much to the Dr. Lolo's dismay) until I was done
with the Embassy thing. Him and his wife were irrate and degrading the PNP with
their screaming and all around chimpanzee act..

Besides, I called a friend, a Major in the PNP and he arrived and spoke with the
PNP. They had no problem with me, but were getting an
Attitude towards this old fart. o I got a free ride in the PNP vehicle (my
choice), one of them Rode with the wife, (again my choice). Old fart has to take
grandson to hospital to have him looked at. He shows up late and tries to bribe
one of the officers (Lim) to take his side "I will take care of you" wink wink.

Nope, they all fed up with this guy.
The PNP gives me a good lawyer's name.
I'm going to court when I get my summons.

Charge, Child Abuse.

I told the PNP, Yep, I did it, but I was wrong and sorry. I should
Have backhanded the old man out of his chair for not teaching his
Grandson manners.

They was all laughing when I left.

Good thing I forgot the guys name and address (saw it while they
Were typing the report) He would be unable to be at the court house.
No brag, just plain fact.

Child abuse?

I gave the PNP my web site address. They was having fun looking at
All my happy kids.

gordy

Anonymous said...

PASTED:

A little story leading up to a wonderful extended weekend.

On the 23rd of March, I was made to go to the Pryce Hotel under threat (Office
of Personnel Management, which pays me a grand total of $569 per month for 26.6
years of Federal Employment). They sent me a letter indicating I MUST attend
this or my retirement pay, which I worked for and am due, would be cut off.

To bad one of these OPM upstarts was not the rep at the hotel. It was a feller
from the SSA office in the Manila US Embassy. I got no beef with him, but I do
with OPM and wrote to my Congressmen/woman about their threat.

So, I am sitting up there minding my own business. A couple of tables over is
this tubby lil boy (7 years old) is slapping the chairs, making GOOGOO noises -
loudly, and just being a twit. He's there with two old people.

The boy put his feet, with sandals on, on the dining table. This is a ritzy,
5***** hotel. The dining tables are for dining and have pearly white table
cloths on them.
Has this boy walked, with those sandals on, thru the Cogon or Carmen Market?
Has this lil turd walked thru the parking lot of the Hotel?
Has he stepped in something? (dog shit, pigeon shit, sparrow shit, dead bugs,
oil or grease or brake fluid from vehicles)??

I get up and walk over, with my cane, and tap him on the leg (go ahead, tap
yourself. Do not hit or strike, tap. Now put on a pair of heavy pants or sweats
and tap yourself on the shin - are you dead yet?)

I tell the boy "Take your feet off the table and attempt to act like a human
being".
word for word.

His Lolo (grandfather) gets up and comes around the table, bumping into me (on
purpose) and asks very loudly why I "STRUCK" his grandson.
Because his feet was on the table.
He belly bumps me again, telling me it's not my job (he's entirely correct) and
that I have no rights in the Philippines (he's not correct).
I asked him "Did you just push me? Twice? Did you push me? Is that a threat?
Please tell me it's a threat". (at this point, open chin, open throat, open
mouth, I was fixing to take him OUT and I don't mean dancing).

He backed off and DEMANDED that the staff call the pulis (police).
I go and sit back down, waiting for my turn with the feller from the Embassy.

This guy is like a chimpanzee trying to make himself into a rage. Yelling and
walking all over and waving his hands. Everything like a chimpanzee except for
beating his chest and breaking down trees. He tells the guy from SSA, Manila US
Emabassy "I want to report this man to the Embassy". Then his wife starts. WOW.
"I know YOU people. I've been to America. I know what you are like".

hmmmmm. I been here for 3 years and 7 months and I still don't know what ALL
Filipinos are like.

"Chittering like a lil monkey. Get yourself a couple bananas and you will feel
better". hmmm, might have been the wrong thing to say, but I was laughing while
I said it.

The police arrive. They talk to me. My friend, a Major in the PNP arrives. They
stand by and wait until I am thru with my interview from the Embassy guy.

This "not being done right away" puts the dear Doctor into another rage,
directed at the lowly policemen, for not carting me off right away.
All in all, this really boosts his standing with the 4 officers - - - - - NOT!!!

I get done and say "Okay, Thanks. Let's go."
They want me to ride with my wife and follow them.
I want to ride with them and have an officer ride with my wife.
I win. Cool, a ride in a Philippine Pulis Car.

We get to Carmen market and wait and wait and wait.
Talking with the cops all the time. Enjoyable time and new friends are made.
DOCTOR finally shows up and tries to BRIBE Officer Lim to take his case for
write up (and I will take care of you - wink wink wink).
Shit, we all heard it.

The police give me the address of a GOOD lawyer they are not liking this puffed
up peacock of a little man from Iligan City).

Anonymous said...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: TexKano
Date: Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: My shit's fucked up
To: Mike Roy


Been there, done that.
That shift changing is fuckin' up your sleep habits.
Fucked up sleep habits lead to depression.

Depression, (if you had it before the sleep pattern was messed up) is nothing to screw with.
Damn near killed me.

Take walks
Eat and drink right.
Try some chocolate once a week or so (sometimes that helps)

We know you're there. Stay in the back if you prefer. It's okay.

Yep, a group that on normal situations, would never happen. hahahahahaha

You take care. Write me now and then if nothing else.
I'm always here.

oooops, lil girl just said "Tito Gordy, lets take a bath"
she been doing that everyday all month
hahahahahaha

she washes my legs and my back
I get to wash her hair.
gordy dos 17dec07
My Web-page
http://gahig-ulo.com/ - NEW PAGES 15Apr09

Unknown said...

This is getting out of hand, the issue started with the incident of Gordon reprimanding the unruly kid. It may not have been in his place to do so (being a foreigner seen as an outsider), but to be called a child abuser based on that incident is a stretch.

The email on bathing "little girls" could be a fantasy and unless one can prove that he is actually doing it is another matter.

There is nothing to gain from these exchanges... we will delete this if this kind of comments persist.

Anonymous said...

Political,

When you hit someone elses kid with a cane hard enough to leave a bruise that isnt reprimanding, thats abuse !!!

Even in America if you did it it would be abuse so theres nostating it hard on him as he a pooreigner or etc. Hell you should touch another persons kid in the presence of their parents as thats simply unrefined in any culture and I know many persons , both Filipino and American, who woukd have simply killed the fatass on spot for hitting their child with a cane with enough force to leave bruising.

Regarding bathing with kids, rather Gordon Elletson is actually doing it or fantasizing about it is of no diffrence because either way it shows he is a perverted freak. To make matters worse the fat freak stated in email he did it which must mean he thinks such disgusting behavior is normal.

Sounds par for the course though when considering the dam idiot also boasted on the net bragging about hitting a little boy with a cane then proceeded to call the boys grandfather a money for taking offense to it.

You condone this behavior?

Unknown said...

Bruise? Was there a medical report on that? This is sounding more like a personal vendetta, how about you settle this elsewhere.....

Anonymous said...

Political,

To my understanding there was a bruise and to my knowledge the boys grandfather, Dr. Severino Madlangbayan, took the boy to the hospital to get a medical legal report to document the ABUSE his grandson , Xavier Madlangbayan, at the hands of Gordon Elletson.

Anonymous said...

Political,

If you doubt the existance of a medical legal report please feel free to contact the family of the abused boy , Xavier Madlangbayan. His grandfather , Dr. Severino Madlangbayan, has set up a facebook fan page as part of his running for a City Council position in Iligan city. Link below

http://www.facebook.com/pages/DOK-BAYAN-Dr-Severino-Canyong-Madlangbayan-Jr/158608952753?v=info

And if you doubt that abuse took place please read the beloe cut and paste text that the boys mother , Marie Madlangbayan, posted last month about how her son suffers psycological trauma due to the abuse he suffered at the hands of Gordon Elletson.

Pasted:

"PNP here in Iligan failed to deliver the subpoenas to our door for the three consecutive times they were supposed to.
this is what the Prosecutor's office is using to re-open the case.there is no "due process of law."
both my parents and i were present in the hearing last nov.20.and so was xavier.gordon was absent.his lawyer was there vying and fighting,as he is paid to do,but assistant prosecutor Sandra fought with her tooth and nail.we are still waiting for the resolution to arrive.i sent a text to Fiscal Macauyag,there is no resolution yet.
the judge looked at my kid and probably saw his own grand child,just a bigger version for doy is a big boy,he was even mistaken by gordon as being 12years old,but when the incident happened,he was just 7years old,and that was last year.
he kept asking
"mommy,is Gordon going to be there?what if he hits me again?"
i told him:
"Xavier,he will pay for what he did.He will never put his hands on you again,over my dead body."
i know i haven't posted much updated,thus the question why i have been so quiet... but trust me people,i haven't forgotten what that man did to my son.i'm just being silent.watching.waiting.if the case doesn't get reopened,do not assume it is over.all this is far from over.it has just begun"

Anonymous said...

From another poster:
"Justin Arledge is a bi-polar alcoholic. That explains a lot. He was run out of the Philippines for the murder of the son of a businessman (hardware) in Butuan. He repeatedly visited the local house of child prostitution to, as he claims, find his shabu addicted cousin of his wife. WHAT?? Children as prostitutes? What did Justin Arledge do about that? Did he write volumes on the interent? Did he take it to the mayor? PNP? Child Services? NO? Why not? Are you sure you had a shabu addicted cousin? The murder was in retaliation of his truck being blown up by a RPG. One must question why that was done. Were you involved in gang wars in Butuan? None of this makes you a reliable source of anything.
Evan Iliadis is Greek, whom adopted France as his country after serving (his words) in the French Foreign Legion. Aren't they formed of criminals and escapees from other countries? He moved to France after living in the Philippines and leaving two steps ahead of flying lead after attacking the local Rotary on fraud.
Bradley Hughes, a Vietnam Vet suffering from PTSD and Schizophrenia, both left untreated. Bradley was tossed out of the CDO Rotary. Bradley's friends consist of . . . . he has none in the community where he resides. He's the only person kicked out of a dancing girly bar because the girls wanted nothing to do with him - hence his attacks on Spooks. He has been banned from a local bakery for molesting the cash register girl (under 18). He routinely (as overheard over the back fence telegraph lines amongst maids) molests his maid when his wife is not around. That might explain why her wages are double the going rate for a maid. Bradley Hughes also, repeatedly, tries to get others to wife swap with him (mostly pinoy couples).
Now these three misfits band together to attack and defame Gordon Elletson. Why? I heard it's because he kicked them off his free, yahoo group."

From this poster:
A lot of bla bla bla but not a single line of evidence to support your allegations about the guys you named above.

Anonymous said...

I think that fat bastard Gordon Elletson just hurt that just trying to get sympathy. The poor dumb fuck probably obviously , judging by the sexpat blog, cant fir in anywhere now he showing its true again in the Philippines. It will be funny as hell to see that social reject get his stupid ass deported in near future.

Anonymous said...

As if the situation with Gordon Elletson and Rufus Rodriguez wasn't enough we now have a Cagayan de Oro based Hubo-Hubo bar owner (a pimp) by the name of Michael Mountstephen stating in no uncertain terms that he has political protection in Cagayan de Oro.

I wonder what the price of impunity is in CDO? Who knows but this Hubo-Hubo bar owner states its cheaper than in Cebu and goes on to state the Mayor and a News Paper editor are amongst his protectors.

Please see below link for direct quotes regarding the statements this expatriate is making.

http://sexpatswallofshame.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

"A lot of bla bla bla but not a single line of evidence to support your allegations about the guys you named above. "

Same perhaps could be said regarding the allegations against Elletson as it appears the "appeal" case against him was dismissed by the Philippine court system .

Anonymous said...

Above Gordon Elletson makes it sound as though he is a innocent citizen, sober since 1991 and a non-abusive person.

Truth is he was drunk there in CDO and called Bradley Hughes to help him. Also, Gordy Elletson has a long history a abusing both women as well as children !!!!! For evidence of this abuse just look at what his biological son Chad Elletson had to say on his FACEBOOK account in link below.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=wall&id=1720100274

We already have contact with Chad, who seems to be a nice man, and it seems Gordon not only abused him but also his mother. I think history has repeated itself in Cagayan de Oro Philippines as Gordons self caught up with him in CDO.

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