tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post6536985574006418116..comments2023-10-30T07:38:32.292-07:00Comments on Pedestrian Observer GB: Men Raping MenAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03336187436333827201noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-56527838536699610622009-06-14T13:30:07.108-07:002009-06-14T13:30:07.108-07:00Rape is one of those very difficult case to prosec...Rape is one of those very difficult case to prosecute due to the stigma and shame it brings to the victim. That being said most victims are not willing to relive their sad experience in court and most of the time it's the victim's word against the attacker since there are no witnesses to begin with.<br /><br />I think it does not matter whether one is gay or straight because no one has the right to force themselves on an unwilling partner.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336187436333827201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-41248332336044711712009-06-14T01:22:49.934-07:002009-06-14T01:22:49.934-07:00There's always a question in my mind for the m...There's always a question in my mind for the matter of "men liking men issue" that prevails usually in the Muslim country and mostly in the Middle East. I used to ask some people what is the protection of those men who had been a victim of the situation. <br /><br />Agnostic is so true about his statement that their religion and tradition causes men to divert their sexual lusts to their fellow men.<br /><br />If you have watched "The Kite Runner" which was set in Afghanistan there was a scene that a group of boys raped a young boy and that is prevalent even now in most of the Islamic countries.<br /><br />I just talked to my Pakistani assistant right now and I told him not to get offended and I directly asked him the question "Why do these Pakistani people are liking men especially Filipinos?" He told me that these are the men who are uneducated and mind is just occupied by "sex" alone and for them anyone they see who is prim, they feel sexual urge. I experienced to be liked by these people Pakistani, Arabs from all denominations, Afghans, Indians but I was educated enough how to manage things accordingly. I am gay and for some this would be an advantage for them. Imagine a number of people whose looking after you. Until I let them entertain, then it will happen. But they cannot ruin my dignity and I have learned the art of rescuing myself once abuse will occur.<br /><br />Fidel Umaga is true to his statement that it happens to less educated. But what about the case of those with consent? I mean the gays who really wanted to "do" something with another men? I've read once in a news that there was this Filipino guy who filed a case in the court against one Iranian national for the case of rape. While there was an investigation, they found out that the Filipino slept with that Iranian. Where is the rape here? At first he allowed himself to be brought to the room of the Iranian guy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-16608626923945595692008-03-15T21:04:00.000-07:002008-03-15T21:04:00.000-07:00I believe the younger brother was acquitted of the...I believe the younger brother was acquitted of the rape charges..... had it not been highly publicised and caught the attention of the international press he would have been languishing in a Pakistani prison..... all because he dared talk to a woman that belongs to a higher caste. A mortal sin enough for him to get charged with rape and was subjected to gang rape together with her sister Mukhtar. I was wondering if the Pakistani authorities filed criminal charges for the wrong they had done to him too which probably the book did not mention.<BR/><BR/>Sure, it's a deal lets check out each others blog from time to time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336187436333827201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-26158868687195464892008-03-15T11:57:00.000-07:002008-03-15T11:57:00.000-07:00Hi thanks for dropping by my blogsite.Yes, the boo...Hi thanks for dropping by my blogsite.<BR/>Yes, the book in the end did not explicit said that brother was acquitted but implied that he was ( I stand corrected on this.)<BR/>But the important part is that she opened the eyes of suffering women in Pakistan and regained back her self -respect.<BR/><BR/>Keep on coming back to my site and I 'll come here as often as I can.<BR/>Deal? :)<BR/>ditavonteese23<BR/><BR/>www.mystique2008.blogspot.comMystiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05361188689902539077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-11169681981382220242007-06-30T11:54:00.000-07:002007-06-30T11:54:00.000-07:00I think Fidel pointed a crucial issue that will gi...I think Fidel pointed a crucial issue that will give us a better grasp on the abuse and exploitation our OFWs faced in the middle east.<BR/><BR/>Patronage politics has seeped into the foreign relations department and as such some of those tasked to look into the welfare of our people are ill-equipped or lack the necessary knowledge and skills to deal with the problem. We need to pursue this and look further in order for us to come up with a collective approach and hopefully prevent this exploitation and abuses.<BR/><BR/>As far as the scientific basis of rape, I really have no problem with the contending theories or perspective presented. What matters most is how to prevent and if our people are victimized what measures should our government institute and how we should respond to protect our people.<BR/><BR/>Our abhorrence for the deviants should not affect the way we look at people in that part of the world it will be unfair to generalize because we then become part of the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-31752659090163889162007-06-30T03:08:00.000-07:002007-06-30T03:08:00.000-07:00I agree with Jeffrey and Agnostic, show this peopl...I agree with Jeffrey and Agnostic, show this people a female goat and they would hit it..this are sick people. In history they are people from Sodom and Gomorrah (they are survivor of this wicked place).Elmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04392343094691180650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-71330851139016910962007-06-29T07:14:00.000-07:002007-06-29T07:14:00.000-07:00Men raping Men.There are certain things in this wo...Men raping Men.<BR/><BR/>There are certain things in this world that are beyond man's convention. We have the law on physics, gravity or the fact that the sun will always rise in the East and sets in the West and many more along that line. For man to change those that are not from his hands, is not natural and is tantamount to tampering nature, an act that imposes usurious interest to the offender. <BR/><BR/>What rather changes are certain physical attributes of man or his reactions or perspective to things as he evolves and adopt himself to the changes of time. But basically, man's nature remains the same including the fact that he is still a part of Nature. Being part of nature, he is governed by the same ineluctable order that governs everything in this universe. One of these orders is that sex is designed for its primordial purpose - for procreation, propagation and survival of the specie. Thus, sexual relations between two normal adults of the opposite sex of the same specie are deemed natural while those between the same sexes or between different species are called un-natural. It is for the same reason that nature disfavors in-breeding . The logic is simple. It goes against the grain of nature why sex, in all its grandeur, exists at all. Thus, sex between the same gender of the same specie or between two different species, regardless of gender of the parties, if pursued for its basic purpose, is contrary to nature and is deviant. The same natural injunction exists in sexual relationship between parents and off-springs or between siblings. Human society calls this relationship incestuous. <BR/><BR/>However the act of RAPE by , regardless of the gender of the parties, is always unnatural, deviant and criminal. It is an act of control over the other through the use of violence. Rape does not deserve the approbation of any civilized society. No amount of social convention, be it religious or evolutionary, should justify the heinous crime of RAPE. <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>TMerithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04178329270531582213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-26318196521608383302007-06-29T00:00:00.000-07:002007-06-29T00:00:00.000-07:00F@ck those goddamn Barbaric Muslim countries espec...F@ck those goddamn Barbaric Muslim countries especially Pakistan.<BR/>Their religion and tradition causes Men to divert their sexual lusts to their fellow Men.<BR/><BR/>Getting married and getting laid off is so expensive! you are actually BUYING your soon-to-be-wife<BR/><BR/>That is why the poor Men in their country is raping fellow men.<BR/><BR/>I've heard of these incidents a couple of times. Filipinos being their primary target. Those rapists get away with that, and when they were killed on the process, the supposed "victim" will surely pay a price of death or decapitation..<BR/><BR/>GOD DAMN MUSLIMS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-47482114165017450632007-06-28T22:13:00.000-07:002007-06-28T22:13:00.000-07:00They are gay! They would not have that erection if...They are gay! They would not have that erection if they're were not sexually aroused to begin with.<BR/><BR/>They're similar with those in prison. They are what i call "unconsious homosexuals"<BR/><BR/>Years ago when i was younger and goodlooking i sat beside a Persian guy inside the jeepney. He was doing some sexual advances on me discreetly.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05186335561001192636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-16796856822569998572007-06-28T19:38:00.000-07:002007-06-28T19:38:00.000-07:00Men raping Men. I would rather reserve my comment ...Men raping Men. <BR/><BR/>I would rather reserve my comment on why men rape men and talk about it as an example or in representation of the generic danger that our OFWs face when they work in foreign soil. <BR/><BR/>The dangers that stalk our people in Diaspora are truly numerous both for themselves and for the very people they left behind when they took the risk of working in a land foreign to their birth and culture. Many of our people who usually fell victims to these dangers, with such traumatic consequences if not with fatal results, are usually those who are less educated in our society. Precisely because of their lack of education, they could not compete for whatever available but scarce opportunities back home and are thus forced to leave the country for the proverbial greener pasture. <BR/><BR/>It is so unfortunate to many of our people that one of the very reasons that compel them to seek livelihood outside the Philippines is also a bane to many of them when they found work outside the Philippines. Without the necessary educational qualification or skilled experience, many of our people in Diaspora are simply forced to accept any job as long as it will bring food and a sense of security for their family in the Philippines. They simply do not have a choice. And usually, it is this kind of job that is more fraught with danger. <BR/><BR/>I think the government should seriously adopt a policy of educating our people of the possible dangers that await them if they work in a foreign country, with special emphasis on the difference in our laws and culture with those foreign countries. That what ever they lack in education should be augmented with the proper and necessary training both for skilled and technical jobs. While their informative knowledge on the culture and law of their target country and added training might not totally prevent our OFWs from being a prey to dangerous elements, his added education and training may somehow level their playing field in a foreign land. <BR/><BR/>Parallel to this, the government should also have an existing contingency plan designed to address similar recurring problems and not to react naively as if it is caught by surprise. For our government to belatedly consider these problems of our OFWs as if we have been introduced to this phenomenon only yesterday and not 3 decades ago is simply criminal. <BR/><BR/>Another point to consider to is to see to it that our diplomatic corps sent to man our embassies or consulates in identified problem countries must be of such qualifications that they are not only very knowledgeable in the culture and laws of these countries but they must possess a great deal of talent in human and political relations. Often times, some members of our diplomatic corps are themselves part of the problems of our OFW because the former are purely political appointees without any qualification whatsoever to represent and stand for our people in that foreign soil. Many of them are so idiotic, they themselves are not aware of it. <BR/><BR/>This is the least our government could do ever since it has proven itself inutile to ward off the continues hemorrhage of our labor force to outside countries, and by default, has implicitly adopted the exportation of Philippine Labor Force as part of its grand economic plan.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, existing NGOs which were established to support our OFW must continue and improve their proactive activities and initiatives to educate, provide support system, lobby for our OFW with the government agencies concerned. We cannot rely on the presumed goodwill of our government to help our OFW. This government is simply unreliable and selfish. This is not a solitary statement. We have seen how it handled its responsibility towards the OFW before, and the results are very educational. <BR/><BR/>Nobody but nobody will help us. Only we Filipinos could save our OFWs. Until we have leaders who are willing to be for our people, until our people could see that in helping others they are also helping themselves, until we truly believe that it is only when we have that personal catharsis of being a man for others will there be a change for the better back home. It is happening slowly but it is there already. We just have to keep the fire burning until that fire is lit in the heart of every one of us because we know that until that day comes, many of us will continue to fall prey to the dangers of working in an unknown inhospitable foreign land.fidel_umagahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16188654496997007722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8499859064694863448.post-12493128723336234492007-06-28T19:22:00.000-07:002007-06-28T19:22:00.000-07:00I do understand the Darwinian perspective on rape....I do understand the Darwinian perspective on rape. It isn't saying that the behavior of raping is good or that the rapists have "procreation" in their minds when they do the act. But rather, it meant that (I'll quote from Thornhill and Palmer's reply to their critics):<BR/><BR/>"We argue that a desire for sexual stimulation, not a desire to<BR/>produce offspring, is a proximate cause of raping and is the common<BR/>denominator across human rapes of all kinds. Men’s sexual ardor is, in ultimate terms, a product of past selection pressure that favored it because it increased sexual access to many females of reproductive age."<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the selection pressure is the pressure that males who had sex with the most women are more manly, more favored, and more wanted. The raping behavior is a misfire from the natural selection behavior that men copulate with more women to better preserve their genes.<BR/><BR/>It also does not say that rape is inevitable because it is "genetic". Remember that behaviors are products of both environment and genes. The study was about how "evolutionary knowledge may be applied to achieve desirable social goal of reducing rape."<BR/><BR/>Here's the article:<BR/><BR/>Rape and Evolution: A Reply to Our Critics<BR/>Randy Thornhill and Craig T. Palmer<BR/>http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/THOUH/thornhill-preface.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com